Where Do Thoughts Come From?
79Have you ever had an epiphany?...a sudden realization that came out of nowhere and gave you fresh insight into a situation or miraculously solved a problem? Where did this seemingly original idea come from? Did it emerge from within the deepest crevice of your brain? Was it pulled out of your nervous system? Perhaps it came from somewhere outside of your brain?
We’ve all had sudden inspirational thoughts that gave us pause to ponder the mysteries of the mind and the universe, but when you take a step back and examine the very act of thought as being a mysterious maneuver, things get even more interesting.
Here’s a cool analogy I recently happened upon
…If thoughts come from our brain (as we suspect), then it’s logical to say that music comes from the radio, or my ipod.
It’s a ridiculous notion, but the analogy would seem highly logical to one unaware of sound waves or radio transmissions. We as human beings are comfortable with the familiar. Most of us understand the how radios and ipods transmit music. Fewer embrace newer, abstract concepts such as thought waves and quantum energy fields that may provide us with alternative answers. A lot of people still require the whole dog and pony show presenting “real” (visual) data that things really exists.
What is Thought?
Science has yet to discover a molecule in your brain labeled for “thought”; in fact, the mind has never been found within the brain; at least not by surgeons. They haven’t found your “spirit” either but most people believe we still possess one.
Philosophers have been thinking about “thought” for centuries, attempting to understand the relationship between the physical brain and the mind, (the word frequently synonymous with thought). There are several accepted schools of thought, specifically “Dualism” and “Monism”.
Although each school branches into many diverse and complex areas of interpretation, there are basic philosophical positions surrounding “mind-body” Dualism and Monism.
Those hailing from the school of duality, including Plato, Aristotle and Descartes believe that the body acts like a machine and the mind is in someway separate from the brain. The Cartesian theory (i.e Descartes) defended a philosophical position compatible with most religions, claiming that the mind (or soul) occupies an independent "realm" of existence distinct from that of the physical world; (think “The Matrix”).
Socrates, who inspired the whole notion of Duality, believed that the mind already contained everything there was to know and that thoughts just needed prompting. His “Socratic” method of inquiry was designed to “ask questions that would draw out the knowledge that was already in the mind”.
“Monism” maintains that the mind and body are indistinguishable; one entity, yet both are aspects of nature or God or simply something else “out there”. Hinduism is considered to be the primary proponent of Monism, although Parmenides in the 5th Century BC along with the 17th Century rationalist Baruch Spinoza, also promoted the premise that the brain and mind are one entity.
The “idealist” school of thought springs from Monism but takes it a step further, postulating that the mind is really all that exists and that the world we perceive is either mental itself, or an illusion created by our mind. In simpler terms, everything we perceive to be real, is made up of our ideas, our consciousness and our mind. Modern idealists date back to Immanuel Kant and David Hume in the 18th century.
Idealism was replaced by modern day Materialism, brought about by technology that rejected all notions of spirit and soul in favor of scientific proof.
Today, popular scientists and philosophers have given new credibility to Monism and Idealism as scientific advancements allow us to better understand spirit, soul and consciousness. “Old” thinking suddenly becomes “New” thinking.
So where do thoughts come from?
I, like many modern thinkers (if I may humbly deem myself as such), lean towards idealistic thinking, although I do not consider myself to be religious as were the early idealists. I strive to be less materialistic and more idealistic in the modern sense of the word. I believe it is possible that our mind/brain subconsciously taps into a universal source of ideas and memories; - a common mind field from which information is exchanged. We can’t see or feel it, but science is advancing to the point that we know it’s out there. We may call it “higher intelligence” or “the quantum soup”, but it is where all matter and energy in the universe come together.
Those who practice meditation or pray to a deity, feel that they can access that field of information and intelligence more easily simply by quieting their mind and stepping back from the physical plane in which we live.
Can Meditation Improve Our Minds?
Popular modern philosopher Deepak Chopra, (a proponent of monism/idealism), has said, “The world is actually in you, as images, thoughts, sensations, memories, and projections. You are more real than the material world and closer to the creative source.” It’s certainly something to think about if you enjoy exploring questions such as, "Where Do Thoughts Come From?".
So take this philosophical musing, as a positive call to let go of what you think must be so. Remember the Scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz? He was one of the cleverest thinkers in the cast of characters and he didn’t even “think” he had a brain. He also became a national icon for common sense and intuitive wisdom.
Allow yourself think deeply and try on forward-thinking possibilities. You’re already tapping into the vast mystery of life itself; just don’t filter the wonder with any roadblocks, old dogmas, or radio transmissions; after all, scientific theories, social conventions and FDA warnings all inevitably change for the better as we wise up.
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If you consider that man was originally intended to live forever, then the wonder of the mind's ability to hold vast amounts of knowledge is quite normal.
As far as an epiphany, and where the thought came from. Another wonder of the mind is its ability to solve problems. Our subconscious is always at work deciphering and calculating the probabilities of things we see and hear every day.
When we are awake the our brains are busy taking in sights and sounds but when we sleep our internal personal secretaries go to work sorting our and cataloging information.
Some of our thoughtful revelations are evolved and finally come to light as minute understandings,others are so overwhelming as to numb are conscious thoughts and leave us breathless,wondering...How did I do that?
Nice Hub G-L, thought provoking and illuminating at the same time.
Strange you should say that. I went through a period where I had one great money making idea after another and they all made so much money, I thought that I was the golden boy, One night I dreamed of an idea of such simplicity and of such potential that I woke up amazed that no one had thought of it before. Pleased with myself that I had another winner, I went back to sleep. When I woke next morning, I could not for the life of me remember what it was! :-))
I have been tortured by this event ever since :-))))))
Fascinating read. I have often woke with the solution laid out to a problem that I have been stewing over.
Interesting thought. Definitely, something for your mind to think about and a good use of one's brain.
Interesting! Bookmarked to read again later, at a slower pace!
My own most recent "epiphany" (and I called it just that when I ran to share with my husband!), came while I was working on cleaning some green ware ceramics...I was thinking about how it was stronger in one direction than the other, and recalling how his explanation for that had been simply, "Archimedes' Arch."
A year has passed since that answer to my query, and as I sat cleaning the same items again, my brain wandered back to that, and I was 'gifted' with this sudden flash:
"Archimedes did not "discover" the arch. He merely borrowed the concept from a much older invention: the wheel."
It was a leap of understanding, and in that moment, I experienced what Archimedes himself must have experienced. That "AHA!" moment. Love it when that happens!
Great article!
Thoroughly enjoyed this--having not only studied much of it, but having "thought" where the occasional epiphany I've had came from--knowing only that it came from my truly subcon-scious level. Loved the feedback from Jeromeo and MzLizzy, and, of course, Joni, since they summed up all my feelings to this piece. Fascinating the way you took it apart and put it together, and Jeromeo hit the nail on the head.
It is a good topic. When we think we use our mind. When a new thought or an idea enters the mind, I hope it is from higher self. When we merge our limited self to the higher self, we get access to that infinite knowledge, this is what the eastern philosophy claims.
Very interesting Hub. We can improve our ability to thinking.... And the more we have confidence in our thoughts, the more our mind communicates those intuitions, that often help us more than hours of reflections.
Food for thought a great hub Green Lotus. I often wondered where some of my ideas cam from. Thanks for doing the research for us.
Sweet wishes Rhonda
I love the way you have presented this aspect as it is informative and inspirational.
Thanks for sharing.
What a beautiful piece! The mind and thought process have always fascinated me. I felt like I was reading my own thoughts in this hub.
Thanks for sharing my friend!
Rated up and beautiful!
I love the thoughts that this hub brings up! What a great topic.
I believe in inspired thought. I feel if we want to do something, believe we can, it will come to us. As Greek pointed out it's best to sleep with a pad and pen beside our bedside so's to write them down when they happen.
When the thought happens act on it!
Great topic! Very well done and thought provoking...
:) Katie
Yes, we can chose the source from which /at least part of/ our thoughts come from. Thank you for inspiration - your Hub is trully inspiring and beautiful.
Hi, it is fascinating, I remember seeing a TV programme with a Dr. of Math who was wired up to a computer and was told to keep choosing left or right buttons on the seat, he was really disturbed to find out that the scientist doing the study, and was watching the pc readout, knew which ones he would pick 4 seconds before he did! it seems our memories and thoughts go through a process of at least 4 seconds before we realise that we are actually going to do it or say it! the Dr. of Math was trying to figure out if it was his 'soul' that told him and was disappointed to think that actually it was only his higher brain, he now thinks that we don't have a soul! I was yelling at the TV, 'for goodness sake, maybe it is his soul telling him! who knows? but it was fascinating! cheers nell
GL, another great hub! I like when my thoughts get kickstarted...and this hub did that. I often wondered that very same question and have come no closer to a real answer yet. I think I will have to give it some thought.lol.
Wonderful and awesome Hub which I thoroughly enjoyed reading. I think the monism/dualism approaches are both incomplete and perhaps the idea of holism might be a more creative way of approaching these metaphysical questions. As people we are more than the sum of our parts. But what that "more" is is very hard to define.
Thanks for the stimulating Hub.
Love and peace
Tony
wild dreams are the extend of the daily thought. I can dream the stuff which i cant see in the real world, that is good
You brighted my thoughts about the possibility of America being like Egypt. That was three days ago. Today I need encourageing words from you to show I was wrong than and wrong now.
Great. I love this stuff.
Intriguing post and comments. I'm a writer, author, and oil painter and I'm often amazed how answers to a creative problem come to me in my sleep. I awaken with the solution clearly imprinted in my mind. Thank goodness!
Green Lotus, we can always use words of encouragement.
Nice writing.
Nice, for me Thoughts came from a revision of thr images we have archived in our brain and pop up when we are unstable, like when we are in danger of losing our life our even dreaming.
Thz for the info.
As always, fascinating, GL - your hubs make us think and I'm guessing that means plugging in and receiving thoughts from a bit further on than usual. I guess most of the time we limit our scope of 'thought-gathering' and if only we learn to free ourselves, what soaring heights may those thoughts not come to us from!
I finally made it here! I've been meaning to get over here and read this and I'm glad I did. I love hubs/articles about thoughts and where they come from. You've given us food for thought.. or reflection.
I don't think the mind can be separated from who we are, I think it actually encompasses our entire self. The brain is the computer storing files and sending out messages.
I wish sometimes we didn't have to spend so much time thinking.. I think we think too much, we over analyze instead of being quiet and letting the answers or solutions arise from within. I guess that's why we're encouraged to meditate and relax and refresh ourselves from too much thought stimulation!
Thanks for sharing, GL. It's always a pleasure. :)
Very Interesting-> I Think I am always in the "Think Hard" mode and I always Over think- I am going to go back and re read-cause now I am really thinking about it
I am always drawn to articles that "stimulate" my mind, and this one has done just that! I find, that the more knowledge I gain, the more I seek. Deepak Chopra is a favorite author of mine and has enfluenced my thought process, as have several others. I believe in exercising the mind and have seen the benefits that come from challenges on a regular basis. GL, your hub is fascinating! The level of your intellect intrigues me. I have the highest respect and regard for you. Stay close!
Still late to the party, but well . . .
"Where is the thinker of the thought?" Deepak Chopra
Also (I wish I had the specific reference here) in a National Geographic Article (about 2006ish), the prevaling theory about the brain and the mind went something like this.
The brain is the organ. The mind is an activity, not an artifact. Just like blood circulation is the activity of the heart and digestion is the activity of the stomach, mind is the activity of the brain. You don't find mind in the brain. Mind is what the brain does. And like ripples in the pond, it continues long after the pebble stops moving on the bottom.
cheers
i think way to much i dont know were i get any of my thoughts but i know that some of them are really smart ideas, like if you think about it, most people believe that our thoughts originate from our brains but then you have to believe that tv shows have to come from inside the tv set.





































timorous Level 4 Commenter 16 months ago
Hi G.L. Very interesting stuff. I believe our minds have the capacity to hold a nearly infinite number of thoughts. Some of them fleeting, some..important information we need to know about living in the physical world..i.e. problem-solving. I think most of the latter is learned and assimilated as we go along.
Spiritual thoughts are something separate, though I'm not religious. I think I'll leave it at that.