Socrates: The Curious Philosopher

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By Green Lotus

Smart, but no Adonis
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Smart, but no Adonis

Ancient Greece has turned out many brilliant philosophers whose teachings live on to this day. Of all those toga wrapped fellows, Socrates was perhaps one of the most outspoken of the lot. He was certainly one of most curious.

I may be one of the first to call Socrates “curious”, but there’s no getting away from the fact that he was a seeker. He questioned everything, such as why people formulated opinions, (especially about themselves) and why men of importance thought they were so important in the first place.

He was also curious in that he was a strange little man. Quite short and curiously ugly, even his closest friends called him “grotesque”. He almost never washed, rarely changed his clothes and walked around Athens barefooted while everyone else was sporting the latest style of sandals.

Born almost 2500 yrs ago, Socrates gave the world the inspiring gift that thinking logically can help us to be more independent, more self confident and less conformist.

He was indeed a non-conformist, but his non-conformity was based on his desire to know the truth and to challenge the pompas blowhards of his day. Socrates maintained that just because someone has a confident demeanor and dresses well, doesn’t necessarily mean that they know what they’re talking about.

Socrates: The Original Sheeple Basher

Socrates was one of the first to expound upon the fact that people are like sheep, following the herd passively, fearful of breaking away from the safety of the group

Isn’t it true? Many people tend to accept that people in authority are right. It’s this assumption that Socrates wanted us to challenge by urging us to think logically and not to be dumb struck by their aura of importance.

Middle Stoa Market of the Ancient Greek Agora
Middle Stoa Market of the Ancient Greek Agora

Socrates: The Original Authority Basher

Socrates enjoyed talking to the politicians of the day who congregated daily at the Agora – the main market and meeting place. Many of these men thought very highly of themselves, but Socrates thought most of them were fools filled with hot air who didn't know what they were taking about.

Socrates began to formulate some assumptions that would later make him famous as a great philosopher.

The first assumption he made was that everyone had the power to become a philosopher. After all, even today there isn’t a special course in “how to become a philosopher”. Well, maybe there is, but that kind of schooling wasn’t necessary according to Socrates. He believed philosophy could be discussed by everyone, not only by scholars behind the walls of a university.

Socrates said. “The unexamined life is not worth living.” This much quoted statement needs a bit of explanation. In a nutshell, it means that that everyone should know why we live the way we do; that we should quit being so lazy, stop accepting opinions that are not well thought out, examine our motives and stand by them.

He admitted that he knew little about himself and others, which gave him the freedom to ask difficult questions. Of course, he embarrassed a lot of important people in doing so and that put a big damper on his popularity with politicians and other “higher ups”.

The Socratic Method

It’s true that people, especially those in the public eye, think they can come up with a good idea without thinking too hard about it or by quoting others who also haven’t got a leg to stand on. Socrates thought this was crazy so he came up the "Socratic Method" of thought.

It works like this - Basically you come up with a ‘common sense statement’ then you hypothetically keep coming up with as many faults or exceptions to it.

For example take the statement “Marrying a rich man makes for a comfortable marriage”. Many people will agree, but if we apply Socrates’ test of logical analysis we can also say that if you hate your husband your “comfortable marriage”, is a rotten one.

The point of all this deep analysis, according to the philosopher, is that it makes you less passive and less likely to fall for things that seem logical on the surface. Of course, you may find yourself moving away from the herd of sheep, but that's a good thing. You also risk people disagreeing with you; however, since you’ve done your homework, you’ll be able to defend your thinking with logical statements. Try it out the next time you disagree with that talk radio host who has an undeniably authoritative demeanor.

The "Socratic Method" is popular with law school professors who grill their students to dissect a given hypothesis. This is a good exercise for a student of law, because if you have to defend your client in court, you’d better know what you’re talking about.

Socrates: The Original Democracy Basher

Socrates, although he lived in the “cradle” of Democracy, questioned the democratic method. He refused to accept that just because the majority supported an opinion - that made it right. He deduced that most people did not lead “an examined life” and accepted things that were not well thought out. They formed their opinions from all those people with authoritative, confident demeanors without question. He worried that even people in power were guided by committees and special interest groups; people who really didn’t know what they were taking about.

The Death of Socrates by Jacques- Louis David
The Death of Socrates by Jacques- Louis David

Famous Last Words

Socrates is perhaps just as, if not more famous for his death than for his philosophies. Statues and paintings by the great masters depict his final hour in which he stoically drinks the poisonous cocktail, hemlock. This much admired philosopher who lived his life with integrity, dignity and humility, was sentenced to death by a jury of at least 500 Athenian citizens for corrupting the youth of Athens and failing to respect the gods the city worshipped. In the end, Socrates maintained that he really did not “know” anything. He merely questioned everything in order to discover the truth.

Today Socrates is regarded as one of the most brilliant of all philosophers whose message lives on - Never stop learning, growing and questioning ourselves and others. Not only do we all have to power to stop being sheep, we all have the power to become philosophers.

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Ben Zoltak Level 4 Commenter 2 years ago

Hurray for Socrates and the progeny of his questions. I've spent many a sunny afternoon philosophising with barefoot and odiferous individuals who were so much happier than many of the so-called go-getters and executive sycophants. Happiness really resides within. Many ideas to be reminded of, including Socrates questioning of Democracy, which is so important. This was a great article GL.

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dohn121 Level 3 Commenter 2 years ago

It's funny. In college, whenever I'd hear that one of my fraternity brothers had to write a philosophy paper, we'd all say,"Oh, you gotta write a BS paper?" In our eyes, a philosophy paper was an easy B at least. The assumption was that you could argue your butt off and get a B if you *coughs* apply yourself.

What a great hub on a perhaps the greatest philosopher of them all. Sadly, I had no idea the chap was "grotesque" and unkempt (yuck). Thanks, Green Lotus!

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Pamela99 Level 7 Commenter 2 years ago

Green Lotus, This was a very well written hub and Socrates is definitely an interesting character. He was a very interesting character. Thanks.

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Green Lotus Hub Author 2 years ago

Hi Ben. Not that I'm a proponent of wearing unwashed clothes or going around with stinky feet, but I too have know some clever guys (not girls) who fit that description! Thanks for the clever comments!

@ dohn - I never took Philosophy in college, but I did take a class in Ethics and I got a D. or should I say :D! Glad you enjoyed the read!

Hello Pam - Always good to see you and Thanks for your kind words.

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ramtulip 2 years ago

those who are path of truth give less importance to things what they wear,how they look.they think its just waste of time.they dont need any appreciation for whatever they do,they only see that whatever truths they discovered made life easy for millions in the process of evolution.

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Green Lotus Hub Author 2 years ago

Thank you for visiting and reading my Hub ramtulip.

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hypnodude 2 years ago

Shepherds never like sheeps who want to think with their own head. Very interesting hub Green Lotus. I didn't knew much about Socrates but I'll definitely have to now. Well done. Stumbled. :)

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Green Lotus Hub Author 2 years ago

Thank you so much hypnodude. I too learned a lot about the man in researching his life and works. I think he would enjoy the word 'sheeple' too!

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drbj Level 8 Commenter 2 years ago

Thanks for the exellent research, Green Lotus.

I devised my own acronym, SPA, when I wanted to remember the order of the famous Greek philosophers: Socrates who came first, Plato who was his student, and Aristotle who hung around with disciples of Plato and is probably remembered most for his cogent quotes such as, "All paid jobs absorb and degrade the mind."

Perhaps in the ancient days of Athens, famous philosophers didn't have to pay rent or a mortgage or buy their own meals.

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Green Lotus Hub Author 2 years ago

Hello drbj. I never did agree with that quote either! LOL. I for one, proved him wrong :) Thanks for commenting.

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Kaie Arwen Level 2 Commenter 2 years ago

Great Hub! I use the Socratic Method with my gifted readers........... but admittedly would be found on the other side of Socrates' coin. I've never heard him described as curious either........... but he was most definitely a seeker. Me? I'm a watcher, but I do try to encourage my students and my own children for that matter to be both!

Thanks for the great Hub!

Kaie

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Green Lotus Hub Author 2 years ago

Thanks Kaie - It's good to be a watcher. Sometimes you stay out of trouble that way! Always enjoy pondering over your interesting comments!

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Rochelle Frank 2 years ago

Brilliant! I think Socrates would approve-- and "curious" is entirely appropriate in all senses. Wouldn't you have loved to be there to hear in person-- (uh, presupposing that you would understand Greek.)

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Green Lotus Hub Author 2 years ago

Ah to be a fly on the wall of history. I've thought about that one too! Thanks for saying my Hub was "brilliant". It means a great deal coming from you.

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shazwellyn Level 4 Commenter 2 years ago

There are lots of agendas behind statements and beliefs and he was right to question them. Like your radio comment, the media might only point a view for what they want you hear. This is media manipulation. Socrates would question their view.

I bet he was deemed as a trouble maker at the time - like lots of advocates for causes are!

It is a wise man who realises how little he knows.

Thank you for this, Ive learned something new x

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Green Lotus Hub Author 2 years ago

Thanks so much shaz. I love your comments!..especially about the "wise man". Cheers :)

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rebekahELLE Level 5 Commenter 2 years ago

very nice Green. I forgot that he drank hemlock! I loved (and still do) studying and reading Socrates, Plato and Aristotle.

I remember when I first sat through a classical humanities class, I felt like the whole world was now open to me. I saw that it was right and o.k. and brilliant to be curious and ask questions and to NOT follow the crowd. thanks for sharing and putting together such a great hub about someone who will live forever.

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Green Lotus Hub Author 2 years ago

Much appreciated as always my friend. He continues to remind me of how to best direct my energies and to be fearlessly confrontational. Thanks!

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timorous Level 4 Commenter 2 years ago

Hooray for Socrates. He had the right stuff. I can't believe how many people today just don't question anything anymore..just follow the ignoramus.

I've never been a follower. I question the purpose or intent behind everything (almost), until I can't reduce the logic any further. It's the only way to figure out how things really work. You can then decide for yourself whether it has some value in your life.

Thanks GL. I'm enjoying your hubs.

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Green Lotus Hub Author 2 years ago

Thanks timorus and so glad you're enjoying my Hubs! I love when you refer to people following the "ignoramus". There's a word I need to use more often :)

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chakranir 2 years ago

Thank you Green Lotus for this hub.

I liked the way you have worked out for the details.

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Green Lotus Hub Author 2 years ago

Nice of you to comment chakranir and thank you for your kind words.

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De Greek Level 2 Commenter 2 years ago

What a multi faceted Lady (with a deliberate capital L) you are Green Lotus :-)

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Green Lotus Hub Author 2 years ago

Thank you for your gracious compliment De Greek.

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Shadesbreath Level 5 Commenter 2 years ago

You write so well. Your TV experience really gives your work an accessibility that is just awesome. Sheep placement = masterful, I lol'ed, even though I kinda wish you hadn't said it outloud after. Was just funny. Probably a reflex from TV.

And, I think he was right. He and Epicurus both... we do have to get away from ourselves and we do have to self examine. Reflection is the only way we can figure out if we're maybe, almost, possibly doing at least some of it right in this little span we get before we croak. Guys like Socrates and Plato and Pericles and Thucydides and Aristotle and... so many of them so totally got all of this so long ago so clearly and articulated it so well and yet we still don't get it. It's amazing.

Great hub. Seriously.

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Green Lotus Hub Author 2 years ago

Thanks Shadesbreath. I love your comments. There's so much wisdom from the past that needs a good polishing up and re-presenting. I do enjoy promoting that kind of stuff. Glad you agree.

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hubby7 22 months ago

Green Lotus, why did you not tell me that you don't have to go to school to become a philospher? Had I known this, I woudl not have gotten my degree in philosophy. :) Great hub, well-written, and researched!

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Green Lotus Hub Author 22 months ago

hubby- LOL that's a great compliment coming from one so learned. Nice to meet you and much thanks.

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Jewels Level 3 Commenter 22 months ago

I enjoyed this hub Green Lotus and thumbs up. I too loved the sheep pic, laziness, complacency, sleepiness = sheepiness. Not much has changed in 2500 years!

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Green Lotus Hub Author 22 months ago

Nice to see you Jewels and much thanks for the comment and rating!!

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catherine74 22 months ago

Nice, enjoyable read. Love anything about Socrates.

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Green Lotus Hub Author 22 months ago

Thanks so much catherine!

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Joyus Crynoid Level 3 Commenter 20 months ago

If only more folks would follow the teachings and example of Socrates, the world would be a better place!

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Green Lotus Hub Author 20 months ago

Thanks for stopping by and for commenting Joyus!

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epigramman 20 months ago

... a vastly superior hub full of a great writer's achievement - not his - yours!!!!!

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Green Lotus Hub Author 20 months ago

Thank you for your kind words epigramman

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Nefarious_Misery Level 3 Commenter 8 months ago

I've always loved philosophy, and there were some interesting facts here that I'd never heard before. Great Read. You have a new fan.

Voted up, Awesome, and Intersting

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Green Lotus Hub Author 8 months ago

Nefarious - Nice to meet you and always a pleasure to meet a fellow philosophile (is that a word?). Thanks for your kind words and welcome.

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Nell Rose Level 8 Commenter 4 months ago

Hi, a very clever man way ahead of his time, the sad thing is that even today people are killed around the world just for believing in something that the state doesn't want them to believe or question, but of course he was so right, if it wasn't for him we would all think in the old fashioned greek way, and he was the one who we all remember, so in a sense he beat them all, if he was around today he would probably wear a very dirty shirt that had the logo, You laugh at me because I am different, I laugh at you because you are all the same! really interesting, cheers nell

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Green Lotus Hub Author 4 months ago

Nell- I love that t-shirt!..and glad you enjoyed this hub! It's been one of my personal favorites being a lover of Greek Philosophy. Cheers

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DIMIR Level 3 Commenter 4 months ago

It really isn't fair to say Socrates destroyed any type of democracy, considering that his actions are written in Plato's dialogues... who also wrote the "Republic"... about a true democracy. On top of that, Socrates agrees to drink the hemlock though he has passage via friends safely out of Athens because it is the laws of Athens he is to abide. In the "Crito" this is covered.

It wasn't that he questioned the state so much, but that he questioned the sophists of his time who were charging the youth for educations based on nothing more than opinion.

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Green Lotus Hub Author 4 months ago

DIMIR - Thanks for adding to the conversation!

I don't think Socrates was successful at "destroying any type of democracy", he merely questioned the democratic method, suggesting that although the majority forwards the credibility of an opinion or gets someone elected, they are lax in "examining" the facts prior the vote.

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DIMIR Level 3 Commenter 4 months ago

I more clearly understand what you meant now! It was mostly the heading "Democaracy Basher." Although he is known for pointing at certain failings of democracy, he also appreciates many aspects, or at least the more Platonic Socrates seems to construct his society with some definite positive influence. I guess I always feel like he questioned the democracy less than he questioned each person with strongly held opinions and no proof (primarily sophists), as those were the people he frequently is written speaking with in the dialogues. I understand how you meant it now, though.

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